

The Systemd Project Forks the Linux Kernel - dezgeg
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150330#community

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hleszek
Checking the calendar: not yet first april...

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computer
Looks like a weekly magazine, so this edition would cover April 1st.

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sspiff
This is not the real systemD repository. This is just some random guy on the
internet who snagged the GitHub username "systemdaemon".

Have a look here:
[https://github.com/systemdaemon](https://github.com/systemdaemon)

A profile created two weeks ago, with a single repository, 0 stars and 1
commit over its entire lifetime.

This is a transparant hoax, and I don't understand how Distrowatch (and the HN
community) has not seen through it yet...

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616c
Thanks for shedding real data on the issue. I was skeptical myself. I checked
out Poettering's Google+ profile and see no mention of this yet, and I was
kind of surprised.

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616c
I am kind of disappointed that there is some baity qualities to this article,
specifically referencing how Linus chewed out a systemd developer. He did
that, but I recall it not being directly related to his work on systemd and it
negatively impacting the kernel. Kay Sievers is a well-known problem causer as
Linus is concerned, so this is not news.

Keep in mind if you find the mailing list thread referred to, Greg Hartmann
(gregkh), the release maintainer of the Linux kernel, arguably part of the
inner echelons, is responsible for the kdbus branch eventually getting merged
into the mainline kernel, that is the kernel driver that will internalize dbus
as a main (if not only) IPC of the kernel and reducing the overheard of using
dbus now (reducing 12 operations per dbus call to 3 inside the kdbus driver,
IIRC from Lennart's video). Again, this is the work of Lennart Poettering
pulseaudio fame, and now much more heated systemd fame. So to pretend the
Linux kernel is opposed systemd work is not truthful. Some core devs have
taken it on and are staking themselves on it. If this gregkh tidbit does not
make that obvious I do not know what does.

Can someone who knows more comment on what the substantive changes are thus
far? Is the kdbus work a prime motivator of this? I love systemd hate as much
as the next guy, but I was hoping we would get more facts from the HN crowd.

(EDIT: I know I will get downvoted, but I do use systemd and I am not its
biggest fan; I just used Arch and got used to it; everyone has a right to
choose their tools, and init systems ain't different.)

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thaumaturgy
Debian forums concludes it's a joke too:

[http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167](http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=121167)

 _sigh_ Guess my news blackout period is gonna have to start extending from
March 30 to April 2 now.

Lame.

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joosters
They're planning on getting rid of NetworkManager, so they can't be
_completely_ evil :-)

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digi_owl
Bah, sounds like a cure worse than the disease.

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raverbashing
Here's a group that can take criticism nicely...

Let's feign surprise.

Of course the kernel is GPL and forking is allowed, but I have yet to see such
an idiotic case of tail wagging the dog.

Maybe the guy that wanted to "prove" he's better at managing the Redis than
Antirez is a strong contest

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fsniper
April fools or the real intension faces water at last?

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networked
>[...] According to Ivan Gotyaovich, one of the developers working on
systemd[...]

I'd say it's a prank but I don't think it's April 1st anywhere in the world
yet.

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digi_owl
A quick search comes up blank on that name.

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palmer_eldritch
Just a quick note about that name "Ivan Gotyaovich": Got ya! -ovitch.

It sounds much more like a prank than a real name.

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slikts
Yeah, there's no such surname as "Готяович"; it's made up.

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simgidacav
The fork won't last long I guess...

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hias
so they finally jumped the shark ;-)

