He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

If he didn't blow it up, there is no reason to jail them. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

If he didn't blow it up, there is no reason to jail them

So nobody should be jailed for making threats?

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

If he didn't blow it up, there is no reason to jail them

So nobody should be jailed for making threats?

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

Threats should not be jail-able offenses. And can you prove it was a loaded gun, or that it wasn't an air soft gun with a scope?

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

If he didn't blow it up, there is no reason to jail them

So nobody should be jailed for making threats?

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

Threats should not be jail-able offenses.

Why?

And can you prove it was a loaded gun, or that it wasn't an air soft gun with a scope?

The Israeli Army admitted it was a real gun, and it doesn't matter whether or not it was loaded. It wouldn't have even mattered ifit was an air soft gun; a threat to harm is a threat to harm.

If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

No one made any threats, no one one in danger, no one was scared or terrorized

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

& that's news?

What about hundreds / thousands of men women & children actually dying daily from things like war to hunger to disease etc.? But no we have to focus on some lone Israeli solider putting up a picture. Or how about the real human rights violations going on in the area.

This is really just stupid anti-Israel propaganda. & I could show you much worse on the Palestinian side.I think the fact that it was reported shows how rare it is, as opposed to other areas in the region that it's so common place, that it isn't even mentioned.

Lets focus on the real problems in the world like people actually dying 1st, before worrying about some solider posting pictures.

No one made any threats, no one one in danger, no one was scared or terrorized

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

& that's news?

What about hundreds / thousands of men women & children actually dying daily from things like war to hunger to disease etc.? But no we have to focus on some lone Israeli solider putting up a picture. Or how about the real human rights violations going on in the area.

This is really just stupid anti-Israel propaganda. & I could show you much worse on the Palestinian side.I think the fact that it was reported shows how rare it is, as opposed to other areas in the region that it's so common place, that it isn't even mentioned.

Lets focus on the real problems in the world like people actually dying 1st, before worrying about some solider posting pictures.

I can post whatever I like. I doubt that all of your posts are about stopping genocide and ending world hunger, so you have no basis for criticizing me. Yes, the child was in danger. A hooligan pointed a gun at him. What would have happened if it had "accidentally" gone off? Most gun deaths are accidents.

I can be as one-sided as I like. I have been pretty clear about my views on this topic for months.

No one made any threats, no one one in danger, no one was scared or terrorized

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

& that's news?

What about hundreds / thousands of men women & children actually dying daily from things like war to hunger to disease etc.? But no we have to focus on some lone Israeli solider putting up a picture. Or how about the real human rights violations going on in the area.

This is really just stupid anti-Israel propaganda. & I could show you much worse on the Palestinian side.I think the fact that it was reported shows how rare it is, as opposed to other areas in the region that it's so common place, that it isn't even mentioned.

Lets focus on the real problems in the world like people actually dying 1st, before worrying about some solider posting pictures.

I can post whatever I like. I doubt that all of your posts are about stopping genocide and ending world hunger, so you have no basis for criticizing me. Yes, the child was in danger. A hooligan pointed a gun at him. What would have happened if it had "accidentally" gone off? Most gun deaths are accidents.

I can be as one-sided as I like. I have been pretty clear about my views on this topic for months.

Non-sequitur.

I cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling. When I am reading, I only hear it and am unable to remember what the written word looks like."
"Albert Einstein

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

He made light of killing him. He pointed his weapon at a child and took a picture. That's what the big deal is. Would you advocate jailing someone who "jokes" about blowing up a US airport? He didn't actually do it, so what's the big deal?

If he didn't blow it up, there is no reason to jail them

So nobody should be jailed for making threats?

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

Threats should not be jail-able offenses.

Why?

And can you prove it was a loaded gun, or that it wasn't an air soft gun with a scope?

The Israeli Army admitted it was a real gun, and it doesn't matter whether or not it was loaded. It wouldn't have even mattered ifit was an air soft gun; a threat to harm is a threat to harm.

Source? And by the way, when was the last time an unloaded gun killed someone?

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

No one made any threats, no one one in danger, no one was scared or terrorized

. Also, it is just a picture, the sniper did not kill the kid.

It doesn't matter. It was unprofessional, dangerous, and dehumanizing.

& that's news?

What about hundreds / thousands of men women & children actually dying daily from things like war to hunger to disease etc.? But no we have to focus on some lone Israeli solider putting up a picture. Or how about the real human rights violations going on in the area.

This is really just stupid anti-Israel propaganda. & I could show you much worse on the Palestinian side.I think the fact that it was reported shows how rare it is, as opposed to other areas in the region that it's so common place, that it isn't even mentioned.

Lets focus on the real problems in the world like people actually dying 1st, before worrying about some solider posting pictures.

I can post whatever I like. I doubt that all of your posts are about stopping genocide and ending world hunger, so you have no basis for criticizing me. Yes, the child was in danger. A hooligan pointed a gun at him. What would have happened if it had "accidentally" gone off? Most gun deaths are accidents.

I can be as one-sided as I like. I have been pretty clear about my views on this topic for months.

An unloaded gun cannot go off, so the child may not have been in danger.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

Who cares if it was unloaded or not?

#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

Who cares if it was unloaded or not?

An unloaded gun cant kill or accidentally go off.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 5:16:28 PM, tmar19652 wrote:He didn't kill him, so whats the big deal? We don't even know if the gun was loaded at the time.

Spoken like a staunch conservative supporter of Israel.

Yo, all of my subliterate conservative criticasters who find perusing and processing the sesquipedalian verbiage of my posts to be such a bothersome brain-taxing chore, I have a new nickname for you. Henceforth you shall be known as Pooh Bears. No, not for the obvious apt reasons, i.e., not because you're full of pooh, and not because of your ursine irritability. Rather, you put me in mind of an A.A. Milne quote, "I am a Bear of Very Little Brain, and long words bother me". Love ya, Pooh Bears.

1. IDF accepted that the action was reprehensible.2. There was a disciplinary action already taken.3. Israel doesn't have a law dealing with pointing a gun at someone, so there's no possibility of a punitive action.

The thing is, HAD the soldier been caught while pointing the gun, it would have been a big deal, because we would have not been about his intention. Now we know that he didn't intend to kill him, and was having some tasteless fun, th severity reduces. It raised such a stink just because the boy was Palestinian and the soldier was Israeli, and people are passionate about the issue, try to take the smallest issue as an EVIDENCE of national intentions.

At 2/26/2013 9:20:16 AM, Cermank wrote:1. IDF accepted that the action was reprehensible.2. There was a disciplinary action already taken.3. Israel doesn't have a law dealing with pointing a gun at someone, so there's no possibility of a punitive action.

The thing is, HAD the soldier been caught while pointing the gun, it would have been a big deal, because we would have not been about his intention. Now we know that he didn't intend to kill him, and was having some tasteless fun, th severity reduces. It raised such a stink just because the boy was Palestinian and the soldier was Israeli, and people are passionate about the issue, try to take the smallest issue as an EVIDENCE of national intentions.

I'm afraid people such as these aren't affected by facilitating distinctions between individual action and policy. They much prefer emotional appeals and generalizations, and then act surprised when rational people don't act the same way.

"It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book."

At 2/26/2013 9:20:16 AM, Cermank wrote:1. IDF accepted that the action was reprehensible.2. There was a disciplinary action already taken.3. Israel doesn't have a law dealing with pointing a gun at someone, so there's no possibility of a punitive action.

The thing is, HAD the soldier been caught while pointing the gun, it would have been a big deal, because we would have not been about his intention. Now we know that he didn't intend to kill him, and was having some tasteless fun, th severity reduces. It raised such a stink just because the boy was Palestinian and the soldier was Israeli, and people are passionate about the issue, try to take the smallest issue as an EVIDENCE of national intentions.

+1

I cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling. When I am reading, I only hear it and am unable to remember what the written word looks like."
"Albert Einstein

At 2/26/2013 9:20:16 AM, Cermank wrote:1. IDF accepted that the action was reprehensible.2. There was a disciplinary action already taken.3. Israel doesn't have a law dealing with pointing a gun at someone, so there's no possibility of a punitive action.

The thing is, HAD the soldier been caught while pointing the gun, it would have been a big deal, because we would have not been about his intention. Now we know that he didn't intend to kill him, and was having some tasteless fun, th severity reduces. It raised such a stink just because the boy was Palestinian and the soldier was Israeli, and people are passionate about the issue, try to take the smallest issue as an EVIDENCE of national intentions.

I'm afraid people such as these aren't affected by facilitating distinctions between individual action and policy. They much prefer emotional appeals and generalizations, and then act surprised when rational people don't act the same way.

I wonder if you would feel the same way if people started waltzing around in your school with Nazi symbols.

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

Who cares if it was unloaded or not?

An unloaded gun cant kill or accidentally go off.

It's the principle behind it.

#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

If the person never knows about it, what's the big deal?No one made any threats, no one felt threatened, no one was in any in danger, no one was scared or terrorized. It was distasteful, not criminal.

It IS a threat, whether the boy knew about it or not.

Also, this is a matter of the principle behind pointing a gun at someone, not Israel VS Palestine.

#UnbanTheMadman

"Some will sell their dreams for small desires
Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

If the person never knows about it, what's the big deal?No one made any threats, no one felt threatened, no one was in any in danger, no one was scared or terrorized. It was distasteful, not criminal.

It IS a threat, whether the boy knew about it or not.

Are we using the word "threat" in the same way?When I say threat, I mean:An expression of intention to inflict evil, injury, or damagehttp://www.merriam-webster.com...

Do you really think that some one should go to jail for merely aiming a gun at someone, from inside his house, without the person ever knowing anything.Is there any such law anywhere that prohibits that?

Also, this is a matter of the principle behind pointing a gun at someone, not Israel VS Palestine.

I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I never implied that this has anything to do with the Israeli - Palestinian conflict.

I cannot write in English, because of the treacherous spelling. When I am reading, I only hear it and am unable to remember what the written word looks like."
"Albert Einstein

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

Who cares if it was unloaded or not?

An unloaded gun cant kill or accidentally go off.

It's the principle behind it.

No its not, an unloaded gun from a quarter mile away has less killing power that a rusty fork

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush

At 2/21/2013 10:04:31 PM, bossyburrito wrote:If I pulled out a gun and put it to your head, should I not be punished?

Remember the Israeli was 400+ meters away.

Oh, so it's OK as long as you're not right next to me. It's good to know that I can point a sniper rifle at you and you would be fine.

If the person never knows about it, what's the big deal?No one made any threats, no one felt threatened, no one was in any in danger, no one was scared or terrorized. It was distasteful, not criminal.

It IS a threat, whether the boy knew about it or not.

Also, this is a matter of the principle behind pointing a gun at someone, not Israel VS Palestine.

Why is it a threat?Why is it a matter of principle, you are simply making an unsubstantiated emotional/moral argument.

"Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first." -Ronald Reagan

"The notion of political correctness declares certain topics, certain ex<x>pressions even certain gestures off-limits. What began as a crusade for civility has soured into a cause of conflict and even censorship." -George H.W. Bush